Creative Burrow
BunnyWarren => DebatingBurrow => Topic started by: Bunny on 05:02pm Thu, Jan 7, 2010
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Okay a bit of backstory here....
I was taken to the ER last week on Wednesday or when ever for high fevers of 103-104. I'd had them since Monday along with all the cold and flu symptoms minus the throat and nose issues.
They told me I had Mono, and that my liver and spleen were badly swollen. On TOP of the organs swelling my stomach was over producing gas at a rate too fast to burp out and it wasnt going out the other end, so I was squishing everything causing more pain. I managed to lessen that with Gas-X, which if it didnt eliminate it all got it to the point where I could actually burp it out. If it were a person I'd hug it cause the pain that gas was causing was intense to say the least. My stomach looked as though I was pregnant from it, and once after taking it I was laying on it slightly and fell over as the Gas-X deflated it :o. THAT was awesome.
A week later, on Monday and Tuesday I find my nose imitating a fire hydrant. I went to the ER both times unable to stop the bleeding. The first time I pass out twice and they stopped the bleeding. I eventually go home to bed. The second time they couldnt stop the bleeding and it was twice as bad, so they insert what they call a Rhino Rocket. It's a tampon for your nose. That stopped it but shortly there after I went into shock and everything's fuzzy cause I'm passing out or semi-conscious and trembling. Apparently I terrified the doctor and everyone else cause of my heart rate. They EVENTUALLY get a saline shot and an IV into me and I wake up.
I am told to return two days later on Friday, which is tomorrow, to get the Rocket removed. I know my nose will PROBABLY start bleeding again, and I refuse to remove it myself. The doctor also told me I HAVE to get an ear throat and nose surgeon to deal with it anyway.
So. I call my mum to tell her what's happening and she accidentally canceled my appt because she thought it was a hospital in GA, and I'm in TN right now. I laugh at her lovingly and go to call the hospital back to re-book my appt.
When I call the receptionist asks if I have Mono. I reply with yes. She asks if I'm over it. I say no. She tells me she cannot allow me to come in until I am over the Mono. I'm not okay at this point and trying not to cry as I explain I need to get this rocket out of my nose and I was TOLD to come in by the ER who know I have Mono. I also have to explain to this woman who doesnt seem to know what a Rhino Rocket is that I CANNOT remove it myself and my nose may need to be cauterized afterwards anyways, so it wouldnt be wise for me to remove it either way. I'm also considering explaining the whole bacteria and blood poisoning deal that could come from having a tampon up your nose for a month or three (the time Mono can take) but she gets the idea and talks to her supervisor. They are allowing me to come in.
BEFORE you go further please note that Mono is contracted via saliva. That means kissing, knives and forks, cups, etc. It can be contracted FOR UP TO SIX MONTHS AFTER THE SYMPTOMS. You can have it for 1-3 months, but they like to tell you the symptoms last 10 days. You can even not get symptoms and not know so what ever.
NOW my question is this: IS it okay to deny treating people in a doctors office or clinic (or even a hospital) because of a pre-existing disease?
You might say in some cases yes. Like HIV/AIDS BUT I say no. That's contracted by exchanging fluids, as far as I understand that's mostly blood. So if everyone keeps wounds wrapped and takes the correct precautions (safety goggles, gloves, masks, etc) there shouldnt be a problem.
Then you bring ethics into it. The people treating you. They signed on knowing they will be around sick people and may contract diseases. I believe there's even a note that they could contract a fatal disease and this will not get in the way of their jobs.
To be frank, in my situation, am I NOT allowed medical care for the next 6 months unless I'm bleeding to death again?! If I had AIDs would I not be allowed care until I'm on my deathbed?! Where are the lines?!
I feel like it's my 13th birthday again, where I was told I had mumps and had to blow the candles out down a long hallway so no one else would get my GLAND INFECTION. Which they told me I had later, not mumps. Basically, I feel like they're telling me I'm contaminated and they're quarantining me, when what I have isnt contagious if everyone watches their hygiene.
I feel excluded and alienated :-(.
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They're not refusing you treatment because you have icky germs. They're refusing you treatment because having mono is detrimental to the effectiveness of those treatments, and could result in making things worse if you get treated while you still have mono.
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I feel so badly for you. I too think they denied seeing you because of medical reasons, not because you were contagious. To be sure, why not call and ask? Also ask what they recommend you do to have the rocket removed. If I remember correctly mono suppresses your immune system to a certain extent.
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They're not refusing you treatment because you have icky germs. They're refusing you treatment because having mono is detrimental to the effectiveness of those treatments, and could result in making things worse if you get treated while you still have mono.
Mono is CAUSING my problems though. According to the doctor my nose is bleeding cause of it :(.
I feel so badly for you. I too think they denied seeing you because of medical reasons, not because you were contagious. To be sure, why not call and ask? Also ask what they recommend you do to have the rocket removed. If I remember correctly mono suppresses your immune system to a certain extent.
I'm on steroids to suppress it, and all sorts of things. It's put my immune in hyper drive which is why my organs and nodes are swelling right up apparently :(.
I run out of the steroids today, so I need to ask my GP if I need more.
They can't refuse to take out a rocket, I could get a brain/blood infection from it.
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Call the ER and ask what they suggest, ask them to ask the Doctor that treated you...just a thought.
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Well that's how I got in, the lady passed it to her supervisor who was speaking to the doctor who was supposed to remove the rocket, who recognized my "case" and told them off for denying me care...she said it had to be done.
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Well most people answering phones in DR's offices aren't trained very well, however they seem to think because they work there they know it all. lol
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The answer is never. Ever. The whole point of doctors and clinics is to treat illnesses.
If you're sick with a pre-existing condition your should have to wear a mask to stop transmition. That's fine. Taking precautions is fine. But they can't deny you services! Watch you bleed to death while you get over your mono? Haha. Sigh.
But I'm a Canadian. So I have twisted views on health care.
The dentist? Sure. They can tell you to peace out for a regular cleaning if you have mono. That won't kill you. But if you have a dental emergency? Yep. They need to serve you. It's their job.
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It wouldnt have been bleeding to death, it would have been sepsis (blood poisoning).
Also, mono is only transferred through saliva....so unless I was licking things or leaving cups around I wouldnt transmit it. ALSO since it's a 7 year thing they can have fun with that LOL.
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A medical facility that treats people who are undergoing medical issues? How silly would that be.
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No. It is never right. I don't know how many hospitals here in my country have been sued over the years because they refused someone treatment. Now, this can be somehow understood if the hospital or clinic is ill-equipped to treat your disease, thus, they should refer you to another hospital.
Denying you treatment is unfair and against your right. The reason why you went there in the first place is because you want to be cured! What if a patient with a life-threatening disease dies because he or she was declined? Will they answer to that?
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This is so weird I've never heard of someone being denied by health professionals because of mono. What in the world are you suppose to do? I see everyone saying that they're not refusing you because of your other problems, they're doing it because of the mono. Last time I checked the hospital is the only place we can go if we have a medical problem. They cannot refuse you because of mono, that is absolutely ridiculous! What do they expect you to do? Treat yourself? If you continue to be denied call your local news station and tell them your story. I bet they won't deny you then!
Post Merge: 09:50pm Fri, Nov 7, 2014
I forgot to say I pray that you get better soon.
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No, there is a protocol for infectious diseases. Some clinics may not accept patients with contagious diseases at certain locations because of the extra time it may take to follow protocol, but there is no excuse for denying you needed treatment.
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For something like ebola I get it, but mono, please.
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Yeah mono is only infectious if I spit on everything and they put those things in their mouths, kiss everyone, or if I use a water fountain and then they do (which begs the question: why the hell are we using water fountains when peoples spit is all over them by default?!)
I get if it's something super infectious, but I've seen people getting turned away for HIV/AIDS as well...now for the love of god, if you can't handle it send them elsewhere....and don't book freaking appts with those people in the first place too ha ha.
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That is terrible and I guess a formality to protect others around them, so much for helping those in need! I have never been rejected from the hospital even when i had to go there after a bottle of wine because I cut myself whilst preparing food for some guests. They let me in and they helped me but did tell me that they could not give me any medication. I got stitched up and felt every little thing!
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LOL That's not true, they could have put anaesthetic directly on the wound to numb it ha ha.